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PostSubject: The REAL truth?   Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:42 pm

Well, I found this .pdf-file (Adobe Acrobat Reader, ya know), on Vaken.se which is a Swedish version of Indigo Spirit or ATS. This one... I don't know...it defies everything I've believed in so far about this world, (so far as I've read, anyway), but still, I get a feeling it might actually be the truth... Heck, it's 0030 here in Sweden right now, and my mind might be racing away with me when I should actually be asleep, but, meh... I don't know.

Anyway, I'd like y'all to read through this, and tell me what you think about it. I'm going to read through it when I've actually gotten some sleep, again, and THEN make up my mind. But if it's true, then I've got a lot of work ahead of me, and so do you, Harry!

Bah! You may wanna leave this prison planet, but I don't! I've got a neat bar here, lot's of booze and gals, making tons of dough...though you always escape from the tab, you schwein...so why would I want to leave this planet, eh? I tell ya, I'm staying right here.

Well, say what you wish, you pig, but it's my body, and my soul, and I can do whatever I want with it. And there's nothing you can do about it! Neener-neener.

Grrrrr....

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Right. Now that THAT's over with, here's the link:
http://static.scribd.com/docs/r19e19d9g5g4.pdf

Now, I'm off to read again.


Edit: I should add it's a REALLY long read. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:59 pm

Started reading the link. Will read the rest tomorrow Loxley.

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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:48 am

I've been thinking about this one for a few days now, and I believe it may be the truth. This has caused some strange thoughts in my mind. Because if it's true, if there is a supreme force at work and if Earth is a prison, if we're here until we've done what we were supposed to do and then are shipped off somewhere else, then I ask myself a few questions:

- Does it matter who wins the US elections?
- Does it matter whether or not our human bodies were genetically created by the Anunnaki?
- Does it matter whether it's true that aliens are abducting us?
- Does it matter whether or not 9/11 was an inside job?
- Does it matter if there is a New World Order on the rise?

If it's true, then I don't think any of this matters. Furthermore, if this "Insider" is right, then we're creating all of this by ourselves by believing in it. So, we believe in a New World Order, and it comes into fruit. In other words; just by FIGHTING the New World Order, we're making it come into being. The same goes for 9/11 and aliens. And which means I find I no longer have the "craving" to investigate these subjects, like I had before...which was a defining part of my personality, that now almost seems gone.

So, if that's the case, what's the point of researching it anyway? It doesn't have any immediate effect on our lives unless we allow it to, because we're giving each of these power by allowing them to exist (by believing in them).

Furthermore, IF Earth is a prison for our souls (or rather, a school or training facility of sorts as I've come to believe), and there is something "else" beyond, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave Earth after just one lifetime. That poses a contradiction, since a prison is meant to be broken out of, but I find that I don't want to leave - because there's so much to experience and see on this "prison planet".

Meh... Just some strange thoughts that's popped up in my head since I read this one... Make of it what you will. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:47 pm

I can't open the link, Loxley, says there is an error.

Well, I can't say I agree with that. Of course it matters. Sounds like someone is trying to say it's ok, just look the other way. And I don't buy Earth as a prison for souls.

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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:27 pm

Odd, it works for me. Either way, there's a link to the forum in the file, I'll post it, though you'll have to dig through a lot of needless posts to get to the meat of it, there. Are you sure your Acrobat Reader is up to date? If anybody want it and don't get it to work I can email it to them, it's only a couple of mb's anyway.

Well, I'm sure I believe in this now, but I can't say why. Call it a hunch, and if I'm wrong I'll notice when I kick the bucket, but, meh, man, he just seems so real. Some things he says also makes lots of sense, and one can draw traces of it, to among other religions, the Chinese "Celestial Bureaucracy" religion, (that seems to be the core of this whole "Divine Law" that he speaks of, or at least very similar), at least that's the conclusion I made.

This "Insider" called the whole idea of us causing the New World Order, "visualization", I believe. You believe in it, and it becomes that way, I guess. And considering how many we are that believe in it, it's not strange that we've got a New World ORder rushing at us like a Japanese high-speed train. That's what's bothering me, because if I believe him when he says Earth is just a prison for our souls until we've learnt our lesson, then I better believe him on the rest as well... So, then rises the question, how can you spread what you believe is a very liable truth (i.e. the New World Order), when you know it will only hasten the process?

And I can't help but see it like this; if the "end" - your soul being fedexxed to some other world or whatever, when you're dead - is certain, albeit with a few reincarnations from now, granted, then, does it truly matter what the real deal is with this planet, if there's ghosts, aliens, new world order agendas, and secrets of the past? Because these "mysteries" are worldly, in comparison to what you will be and experience when you're shipped off from this prison, and most likely, just means that other races/beings are as much prisoners as we humans are...

Bah, maybe I think too much, and I can't really put into words my thoughts very well right now, but... It's given me some doubts at the very least, about what I've been doing for a good few years now. Maybe I need to take a few hours of meditation some day soon and think it through properly, but...meh. Neutral

Here's the link to the thread, anyway. Let me know if you want the meat of it as a PDF instead, and I'll toss it over to ya. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message161085/pg1

Edit: Seems the thread doesn't contain his posts after all, only others' responses...weird. Well, if you want the file, just let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:53 am

It works for me too, opening as online PDF file. Good read, but taking it slow.
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:05 pm

Loxley wrote:

If it's true, then I don't think any of this matters. Furthermore, if this "Insider" is right, then we're creating all of this by ourselves by believing in it. So, we believe in a New World Order, and it comes into fruit. In other words; just by FIGHTING the New World Order, we're making it come into being. The same goes for 9/11 and aliens. And which means I find I no longer have the "craving" to investigate these subjects, like I had before...which was a defining part of my personality, that now almost seems gone.

So, if that's the case, what's the point of researching it anyway? It doesn't have any immediate effect on our lives unless we allow it to, because we're giving each of these power by allowing them to exist (by believing in them).

Yes! Ever heard of tulpas? These are real living creations that were brought to life by thought alone! Our thoughts create our reality. What you focus on, expands. How many people are in relationships where they constantly disagree with their partner and exclaim 'You're killing me!' and then they develop cancer or some other illness that fulfills their words? Careful what you wish for - everytime you speak or have a thought, you are ordering from the universe. Our thoughts create through shaping universal energy into reality.

Blue, Night and I had a very interesting conversation the other day about terrorism in this respect. If you took away the fear, then in effect terrorism would be useless. It needs 'terror' in it's opposition to exist. Rather than fight terrorism with war, we could heal it by removing our fear. This appears to be what you are saying above Loxley about no longer feeling driven to investigate things...fighting only attracts more fighting. Peace attracts peace. If you don't want something to have power over you, then stop focusing on it. Replace a negative with a positive.
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:55 pm

I have not read the site. However, I will share a moment I had while reading another site a while back. The site, Which I do not recall at the moment, spoke of how we, as spirits came here and why. It spoke of the Illuminati and the NWO and their roles in how we perceive things. Utilizing every method. Genius, every bit of it genius. As I was reading it...my entire body vibrated at an extremely high rate, and out of nowhere, I shouted, Holy Sh*t.....THIS IS PURGATORY! (The human definition of it anyways) It was like everything made so much sense....and it really ticked me off!!!!!!

I will try to get to the site as soon as I can to give proper feed back.


Oh yea, Hi to the piggy/alter ego dude. What a Face

Also, Goth...before I forget, Excellent post!
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:21 pm

Thanks Truth Seeker Very Happy

I have to add that our existence is multidimensional and multifrequency. If it exists in thought form, then it is real somewhere...matter once created cannot be destroyed, BUT it can be converted. It is thoughts that transform it. We are creating our reality in every moment in every thought. If you don't believe this, have a think about how you feel when you research conspiracies or the NWO - does it make you feel safe or threatened? Do your thoughts create hope or desperation? What reality is created through the combination of your thoughts and emotions?

That old saying 'Ignorance is Bliss' holds alot of truth. It doesn't mean to turn your back on a subject and be happy. It means to not focus on something thus expanding it and bringing it into being if it has an unhappy vibration or emotional reaction for you. Most people want a peaceful, happy life and future and yet there they are still manifesting the need to 'fight' something or putting their energy into thinking about (and creating) what they 'don't want'.
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:23 pm

Damn, I totally missed respoinses at this thread. Razz Sorry 'bout tha'. I must say that since I wrote this, I've gotten a lot more perspective on life. I realize we've contributed to the approach of the NWO in believing in it. But I also realize that now, we cannot stop it by pretending it does not exist. We must slay it.

...and then have one hell of a victory party over at Harry's.

Amen to that! Free tequila for all freedom fighters!

But I've also gotten a good perspective on the planet we live in. I don't feel as if it's really a prison or purgatory. I feel more like it's a school where we were once sent to learn true love (I think it might expand even wider than what we here on Earth call love) and peace, perhaps being a school meant to "take us to the next level" as souls. But a purgatory? No... Earth is way too beautiful to be a purgatory. I must say, to tell you the truth, I have no wish to leave Earth, because I think it's such a beautiful place and so full of experiences still waiting for me to be experienced. If you ignore all the industries that I hate more than anything else, that is. Suspect

Still I have also taken the message of that .pdf-file to heart, and these days, I believe in, though I do not worship per se, the Divine Law, and the higher power that this "Insider" is calling the Good One or Divine, the ultimate honcho of the Divine Law. I also believe in the spirit world of this universe. I must say, though I do not worship the Good One per se, I have more respect for him than I have ever had any other supposedly existing deity. He is also the first one I believe that exists. But I don't pray to him, only honour him with a thought when my life is at top and I know who to thank for that. And I know who to ask for strength when it's at the bottom.

But the real question for me now is, will the Good One forgive me for what I will do if the war comes to Sweden? I will possibly have to kill other humans - those of us who have turned and joined the Elite and spend their lives trying to save themselves by killing us. I am also prepared to pay the price for my actions afterwards - another lifetime on Earth, to learn, if I am correct in my guess - but this life, I intend to enjoy as far as I can. I'll leave repention, and seeking higher answers (which will be the key in leaving Earth) for my next life here.
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:16 pm

Too bad I can't read it. Can't it be pasted and copied, Loxley?

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Goth: Blue, Night and I had a very interesting conversation the other day about terrorism in this respect. If you took away the fear, then in effect terrorism would be useless. It needs 'terror' in it's opposition to exist. Rather than fight terrorism with war, we could heal it by removing our fear. This appears to be what you are saying above Loxley about no longer feeling driven to investigate things...fighting only attracts more fighting. Peace attracts

Very true, Goth. sunny

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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:44 am

wow that was a pretty interesting read mate. uhm, take it as it comes i guess. accept what you just witnessed and live with it, i think what you see in his statements are differnt from what i did so i wont try to make a subjective decision about him/her, but just take it as another stone on the path which needs to be observed then moved on Smile

you dont really own anything in this life time, the lessons you teach somebody are just lessons, you don't own them so therfore you dont have anything to really do with their live's. all you can do is live your own, you only have one person to blame if you have a bad day. (easier said then done)
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:09 am

Well, the main reason I believe this one is that I can compare it with the Celestial Bueraucracy of old China. There's very many similarities. I first came in contact with the Celestial Bureaucracy when I played the video game Jade Empire, and although it was very weirdly made in that game, I checked into it a bit more, and it actually made sense as to a way in which gods would operate. And this Divine Law is very similar to it, which leads me to believe it is actually the same but under different names.

But, meh, one isn't to force any religion on others, not even the true one. Wink


Blue, the document is too large to copy in here, and I couldn't copy it anyway, I'd have to write it off from scratch, since it's .pdf. But I've got a few ideas in how you can see it.

First, you can try and reinstall Acrobat Reader, or install the latest version (version 7 I think we're up in now). That might work. Otherwise, you may, if you're using Mozilla Firefox as a web reader, you might want to click the link with the other mouse-button, choose "save link as", save it to your hard-drive, and then choose to "Open with", and choose Mozilla. I think that might work. The third option I can think of right now, is to download some other free pdf-reader - there's a whole list of them on Wikipedia, just search for "Pdf". But one of them should work, and my bet right now is to go with Mozilla.

I can also mail the pdf-file to you if you want to, it might work if you get it as a hard file instead of reading it on the Net.

In my very humble opinion, it's well worth the read. king
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PostSubject: Re: The REAL truth?   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:38 am

I'll try the Acrobat thing sometime.. scratch

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