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PostSubject: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:30 pm

I just thought we should have one of those here as well. For now, let me think what you all think about the rumors of voting frauds in New Hampshire?

I'm going to update later with details, but I can't stand searching for info about something when it has just happened, because it keeps updating, and it gives me a freakin' headache. Anyway, if you want to keep updated about these rumors, I've got some sites for you, where they're most likely going to update.

TruthNews.us
Black Box Voting
Ron Paul War Room
and naturally
Ron Paul campaign site

Well, let's cause some interesting discussions.

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Here's the PrisonPlanet-link for now, about vote frauds, as an appetizer:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/010908_district_admits.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:23 pm

Good idea, Loxley.

For those who don't know, both Loxley and I believe in Ron Paul. He says all the right things and no one else would, and peoples' claims about him being this or that are nonsense. He's truly a good man.

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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:01 am

Yeah. I'm going to compile some links about election fraud both here and in SpecuVision later today. But this goes back to my other thread in the Reptilian forum, about Mark Radke. Because 80 % of New Hampshire, apparently, uses Diebold voting machines. Would you trust a guy like him to count your votes? I sure wouldn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:10 am

Good idea. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:13 am

Well, I've posted a few sources for suspicion at SpeculativeVision. Now, as I'm trying to chill down a bit on conspiracies and politics because of school, I'm just going to post the links, briefly. And, it is now proved, though of course mainstream media doesn't even mention it, that there HAS been election fraud in at least two cities in New Hampshire. For more information and updates, you should check on either BlackBox, Infowars or TruthNews.

This is a video that shows even CNN is surprised over HillDog's victory:
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1604

This is a list of votes from Diebold and hand-counted, if I'm correct: (I've only had time to peruse it quickly so far)
http://drunkardslamppost.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/diebold-and-new-hampshire/

Here's a more extensive voting list:
http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php

And here's a blog, from at least ONE person who suspects foul play:
http://benmoseley.blogspot.com/2008/01/do-nh-primary-statistics-show-election.html

And finally, Rasmussen reports their polls before the election.

Well, gotta dash. I've got a class in ecology coming up. Boring as hell, but I need good grades in it. geek


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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:06 pm

Ah, too many numbers... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:08 pm

Yeah, I know. I'm so damn tired, so I haven't really had the energy to look through it properly myself, yet. But, the thing you should look carefully at is mainly Ron Paul's numbers, comparing "total percent/count, whatever it says", under "counted with Diebold", and "hand-counted", and see the difference between the two. It's a big friggin difference on all candidates between hand counted and Diebold-counted.

"Diebold - We put "fraud" in Your elections."

Edited tonight:

From Ron Pauls campaign web site, it doesn't look like he's going to
request a recount of the votes. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt
until the rally after the Faux debate, but... I know a lot of his
voters are going to feel disappointed if he doesn't request a recount. And, worse, the assholes get away with cheating. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:51 pm

Yeah. I wonder how the polls really went. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Ron Paul in the elections-thread   Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:16 am

I believe they were speculating about around 15% of the votes, but I'm willing to bet it was more than that.


By the way, I found this comment on one of the blogs at the Ron Paul War Room this morning. I just thought it was such a great comment, I had to post it here, because it is both fun and food for thought:

"
Now Andy Jackson, he would have found the closest crooked election
official and shot him dead in the street like a dog (in a fair duel, of
course). But Ron Paul, did he shoot any election officials?
Noooooooooooooooooooooo. He didn’t even flick a spitball at a single
one. Why, he just stood there doin’ nuthin’. Dennis Kucinich had to
ride up and attack the dragon for him. Must mean Ron Paul doesn’t have
the sand to stand up against the machine, right?
WRONG.
Look at Ron Paul. Look at his voting record. Look at who he is and
what he stands for. Was he over-cautious in not challenging the outcome
of New Hampshire, particularly considering that the recount can easily
be fixed too? Maybe, maybe not. Is he timid by nature? Definitely
not—look at the enormous amount of courage he’s shown just by running,
knowing there’s a target on his back. Does he have the sand to stand up
to the machine? He does it every day.
Who else are you going to support? Please don’t give up just because things are getting rough."


So, we don't give up. What we must realize here is that this is huge! Hell, the conspiracy masters are pretty much in the open now, testing their ground to see if their brainwashing (television) has worked, and if they can act in the open without people noticing - they do so by smear campaign, censorship, and vote frauds! I find this almost surreal, because this campaign is proving every non-paranormal conspiracy I've ever believed in to be true!
But on a positive side-note, we are on the offensive also! Unlike me who question why he did not request a recount, Ron Paul is SMART! He KNEW that the mainstream media would put an angle on it if he requested recount, that made him look like a nutcase, a conspiracy theorist (Oh, wait, the guys from the shrink is here now, gotta dash). So instead, he talked with other people who still have hope in the constitution, and THEY requested a recount for him, because they have nothing to loose, which Ron Paul has.
So, democrat or republican, libertarian or green, they, or rather, WE, who believe in the restoration of the Constitution, have a strong union of secret alliances, which gives us STILL the chance to see Ron Paul as president 2008.

Man, that post was exhaustive. Hope you all managed to read through it. I guess my point here is, despite Ron Paul not asking for a recount, don't give up. Me? I see things as far brighter now than I did BEFORE the New Hampshire election. I think there's a bigger chance now. And Ron Paul even won the Fox debate according to polls (despite them censoring out one of his responses with commcercial). Here's the links to the Youtube-videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEdcvUek6-s&eurl=http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/

Seems that Fox dawg is still angry because we threw a few snowballs at him. He has no humor whatsoever. Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW9P5btrZSs&eurl=http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?paged=2

That's part one of Ron Paul's responses to the Fox debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eubZ3j0tt14&eurl=http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?paged=2

This is the second part. Wait for the "Electable"-question. Man, Ron Paul was ON FIRE tonight!!!
Well, that's all I have for now, folks.




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